BCNM's what works and what does not

[PrBlahBlahtson]

r1923

Looks like link had your back Should be active once whasf updates your server, I imagine.

Having trouble remembering that FFXI didn't have XIV's toads, though.

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I only just saw the request post lol.

Toadal recall is present but it's non selectable until we figure out how to display multiple bcnm fights for the same orb and zone. I've tried fixing it but no luck yet. Bluekirby may know how to fix it.

The problem is in bcnm.lua, theres some loops that take place when scanning bcnm's and trade items. It only ever returns 1 fight.

I havn't thought about guessing drop rates, there most probably is an accurate way to guess them using exsisting formulas but yeah... ffxiclopidea will most probably never have them since these battles have been around since 2005 and before.

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Any chance this and the merit list could get pinned by mod?

[Flunklesnarkin]

Added the BCNM / KSNM information in the OP to the wiki

http://kile.dyndns.info:8765/index.php? ... M_.2F_ISNM

You can update these to working in your OP

DRG flg: The Holy Crest
Mission: Save the Children
Mission: The Emissary
Mission: The Three Kingdoms


I also added in all the ISNM / ENM information. If you want to add in the unimplemented chart to your OP here it is.


====Talacca Cove====

ISNM: Call to Arms
ISNM: Compliments to the Chef
Mission: Legacy of the Lost
PUPAF3: Puppetmaster Blues
Limit: Breaking the Bonds of Fate (Corsair)

====Navukgo Execution Chamber====

ISNM: Tough Nut to Crack
ISNM: Happy Caster
Mission: Shield of Diplomacy
BLUAF2: Omens
Limit: Achieving True Power (Puppetmaster)


====Jade Sepulcher====

ISNM: Making a Mockery
ISNM: Shadows of the Mind
Mission: Puppet in Peril
Quest: Moment of Truth
Limit: The Beast Within (Blue Mage)


====Spire of Dem====

ENM: You Are What You Eat
Mission: Ancient Flames Beckon


====Spire of Holla====

ENM: Simulant
Mission: Ancient Flames Beckon


====Spire of Mea====

ENM: Playing Host
Mission: Ancient Flames Beckon


====Spire of Vahzl====

ENM: Pulling the Plug
Mission: Desires of Emptiness


====Monarch Linn====

ENM: Bad Seed
ENM: Fire in the Sky
ENM: Beloved of the Atlantes
ENM: Bugard in the Clouds
Mission: Ancient Vows
Mission: The Savage
Quest: Uninvited Guests


====The Shrouded Maw====

ENM: Test Your Mite
Mission: Darkness Named
Avatar: Waking Dreams


====Mine Shaft #2716====

ENM: Bionic Bug
ENM: Automaton Assault
ENM: Pulling the Strings
Mission: A Century of Hardship
Quest: Return to the Depths


====Boneyard Gully====

ENM: Like the Wind
ENM: Sheep in Antlion's Clothing
ENM: Shell We Dance?
ENM: Totentanz
Mission: Head Wind
Quest: Tango with a Tracker
Quest: Requiem of Sin


====Bearclaw Pinnacle====

ENM: Brothers
ENM: Follow the White Rabbit
ENM: Holy Cow
ENM: When Hell Freezes Over
Mission: Flames for the Dead

[Flunklesnarkin]

I ran through the bcnm "Petrifying Pair" today and it worked perfectly.

It currently doesn't have drops implemented and I gathered this information from the wiki.

*Note* The way the wiki works is it does not display percentages if the number of results are less than 100. However there is still drop rate data there that you can view and try to infer some drop rates from.

Here is the data I found on the Petrifying Pair wiki article (you can see the data if you log in and click the "edit page" button at the top.)

All of:

Lizard Skin (100%)



Zero to One of:

Leaping Boots Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)


One to Two of:

Katana Obi Drop Rate|2|38 (2 divided by 38 is about 5.26%)

Rapier Belt Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)

Scythe Belt Drop Rate|6|38 (6 divided by 38 is about 15.7%)

Chestnut Log Drop Rate|7|38 (7 divided by 38 is about 18.4%)

Elm Log Drop Rate|14|38 (14 divided by 38 is about 36.8%)

Steel Ingot Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)



One of:

Avatar Belt Drop Rate|4|38 ( 4 divided by 38 is about 10.5%)

Pick Belt Drop Rate|4|38 ( 4 divided by 38 is about 10.5%)

Iron Ingot Drop Rate|5|38 ( 5 divided by 38 is about 13.1%)

Iron Ore Drop Rate|5|38 ( 5 divided by 38 is about 13.1%)

Mythril Ore Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)

Silver Ore Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)

Lapis Lazuli Drop Rate|5|38 ( 5 divided by 38 is about 13.1%)




One of:

Cold Carrion Broth Drop Rate|21|38 (21 divided by 38 is about 55.2%)

Scroll of Absorb-AGI Drop Rate|10|35 (10 divided by 38 is about 26.3%)

Scroll of Absorb-INT Drop Rate|8|38 (8 divided by 38 is about 21.0%)

Scroll of Absorb-VIT Drop Rate|11|38 (11 divided by 38 is about 28.9%)

Scroll of Dispel Drop Rate|4|38 ( 4 divided by 38 is about 10.5%)

Scroll of Erase Drop Rate|0|38 0%!!

Scroll of Magic Finale Drop Rate|16|38 (16 divided by 38 is about 42.1%)

Scroll of Utsusemi: Ni Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)


Zero to Two:

Axe Belt Drop Rate|7|38 (7 divided by 38 is about 18.4%)

Cestus Belt Drop Rate|5|38 ( 5 divided by 38 is about 13.1%)

Clear Topaz Drop Rate|0|38 0%!!

Dagger Belt Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)

Darksteel Ore Drop Rate|4|38 ( 4 divided by 38 is about 10.5%)

Gun Belt Drop Rate|1|38 ( 1 divided by 38 is about 2.6%)

Hi-Ether Drop Rate|7|38 (7 divided by 38 is about 18.4%)

Lance Belt Drop Rate|8|38 (8 divided by 38 is about 21.0%)

Light Opal Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)

Mace Belt Drop Rate|6|38 ( 6 divided by 38 is about 15.7%)

Mythril Ingot Drop Rate|8|38 (8 divided by 38 is about 21.0%)

Onyx Drop Rate|1|38 ( 1 divided by 38 is about 2.6%)

Sarashi Drop Rate|10|38 (10 divided by 38 is about 26.3%)

Shield Belt Drop Rate|4|38 ( 4 divided by 38 is about 10.5%)

Song Belt Drop Rate|4|38 ( 4 divided by 38 is about 10.5%)

Staff Belt Drop Rate|5|38 ( 5 divided by 38 is about 13.1%)

Silver Ingot Drop Rate|3|38 (3 divided by 38 is about 7.89%)

Tourmaline Drop Rate|5|38 ( 5 divided by 38 is about 13.1%)



Here are drop rates I would suggest but of course it's open to whatever you guys want. Just tossing my 2cents into the ring.

Either way, it would be nice to have some way of obtaining the Scroll of Erase


My Suggestions

All of:

Lizard Skin: 100%

Zero to One of:

Leaping Boots: 5% (or maybe 10%?)


One to Two of:

Katana Obi: 10%
Rapier Belt: 10%
Scythe Belt: 10%
Chestnut Log: 20%
Elm Log: 40%
Steel Ingot: 10%

One of:

Avatar Belt: 10%
Pick Belt: 10%
Iron Ingot: 15%
Iron Ore: 20%
Mythril Ore: 15%
Silver Ore: 15%
Lapis Lazuli: 15%

One of:

Cold Carrion Broth: 50%
Scroll of Absorb-AGI: 10%
Scroll of Absorb-INT: 10%
Scroll of Absorb-VIT: 10%
Scroll of Dispel: 5%
Scroll of Erase: 2.5%
Scroll of Magic Finale: 10%
Scroll of Utsusemi: Ni: 2.5%

Zero to two:

Axe Belt: 10%
Cestus Belt: 10%
Dagger Belt: 10%
Gun Belt: 10%
Lance Belt: 10%
Mace Belt: 10%
Sarashi: 10%
Shield Belt: 10%
Song Belt: 10%
Staff Belt: 10%
Clear Topaz: 5%
Darksteel Ore: 10%
Hi-Ether: 20%
Light Opal: 5%
Mythril Ingot: 15%
Onyx: 5%
Silver Ingot: 10%
Tourmaline: 15%

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Thats cool, Ill use these figures and add the loot. Feel free to add more missing loot percentages

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Dual boxing bcnm's seems to be working now

[Flunklesnarkin]

I looked into the BCNM Toadal Recall and that one seems to be lacking all of the drop rates.

I went through the information I could find and made some suggestions on loot distribution and percentages. It's completely arbitrary but I think its a fair set up.

Here are some sites I looked at

http://ffxi.somepage.com/bcnm/10
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Toadal_Recall
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=647
http://www.ffxiah.com/bcnm/10/toadal-recall


All of

Seedbed Soil: 100%

Zero to one of

Mannequin Hands 20%
Mannequin Head 40%
Mannequin Body 20%

Zero to one of

Magician's Shield 10%
Warlock's Mantle 10%
Beater's Aspis 10%
Genin Mantle 10%
Pilferer's Aspis 10%
Trimmer's Mantle 10%
Mercenary's Targe 10%

Zero to one of

Scroll of Dispel 10%
Scroll of Erase 5%
Scroll of Phalanx 10%
Scroll of Utsusemi: Ni 5%

One of

Sleepshroom 40%
Woozyshroom 40%
Danceshroom 15%
King Truffle 5%

[SnakekillerX]

Would be great is someone could script one of the following BCNMs for me. They all drop a refresh scroll which I'd love to get my hands on..

Royal Jelly
(Level 40, 15 minutes, 3 members)
Waughroon Shrine
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Royal_Jelly_(BCNM) (unknown NM levels, but full loot tables are there)

Royal Succession
(Level 40, 15 minutes, 3 members)
Balga's Dais
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Royal_Succession (no real info here though)

Steamed Sprouts
(Level 40, 30 minutes, 6 members)
Balga's Dais
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Refresh (loot % are unknown however )

Tails of Woe
(Level 40, 30 minutes, 6 members)
Horlais Peak
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Tails_of_Woe (loot % are unknown however )

The Worm's Turn
(Level 40, 30 minutes, 6 members)
Waughroon Shrine
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/The_Worm%27s_Turn (loot % are unknown however )

Under Observation
(Level 40, 15 minutes, 3 members)
Horlais Peak
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Under_Observation (unknown NM levels, but full loot tables are there)

Undying Promise
(Level 40, 15 minutes, 3 members)
Qu'Bia Arena
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Undying_Promise (loot % are unknown however )


Seems none of these links have full info though.. I guess I should have looked at that before writing all this.. lol

[Flunklesnarkin]

If we can do the level 55 limit break then level up to 60 I'm sure we can take on Taisaijin ;p

He drops the refresh scroll. Something to aim for until BCNM's are all sorted out.